Wrist-crossbow

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Dante

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this occured to me while I was pondering a practical way to carry a bow about after I get the shield skill.

What if I was to make a crossbow under all the limitations of size and whatnot, and attach it via straps or velcro or something to my wrist or upper arm? Could I fire this if nothing else was held in that hand? and if something was held in that hand, could I fire it, yet take damage if the thing I was holding was hit?
 
Well, if you made it via all the rules and limitations than you'd know you cant attach any velcro or straps to it.

Infact the only way I could see possible (and i've discussed this with some staff before) is to make the the bottom have bracelet style rings on the bottom that you could put your arm through. Wheather or not that is allowed had yet to be finalized and a picture would help, I think.

But for all practical reasons its best to go under this assumption:
Crossbows are allowed to be alot smaller than they really were in this era, so that helps for transportation. On top of that, why not make a holster to attach to your belt? You can slide it in and it'll probably end up looking better than having a bulky thing lumped on your arm.

Just the opinion of a player, not staff or martial!
~Sean
 
no velcro? im not sure about that. Ive seen more than one bow with velcro attatched to it to allow arrow packets to stick to it, and you cannot block with a crossbow anyway, which is kind of where a lot of assumption of grey area seems ta come from...well, whatever, I shall await a marshals word on this
 
Dude, just make a minimum length bow and clip it to the back of your shield. Drop shield, grab bow and let the arrows fly.
 
There is also one thing to this therory...what if you get hit with a sword right where your crossbow is. Would you take the damage? I would also have to agree with Sean...it's better to make a crossbow and a little holder on your belt. Also why would you want velcro on your crossbow? And where would you put it?

thats pretty much it (for now anyways)

@~Jacquelyn
 
Dante said:
no velcro? im not sure about that. Ive seen more than one bow with velcro attatched to it to allow arrow packets to stick to it
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I think you just answered your own question. Bows and crossbows follow different rules. Now, I can't be the one to say any final ruling on this but I took the wording of the book as crossbows can be made of nothing more than closed cell foam, (with the exception of duct tape to hold it togather, of coarse).

Besides, using velcro to hold bolts is one thing, but using velcro to turn it into some kind of Wristbow from Vampire hunter D bloodlust (Vorgav Marcus I believe) is entirely different. To use it you'd still have to hold onto it, and you'd probably take damage from it even if you arent holding it while its straped to your arm.

Other than that, everything seems go.
~Sean
 
Aeris said:
There is also one thing to this therory...what if you get hit with a sword right where your crossbow is. Would you take the damage? I would also have to agree with Sean...it's better to make a crossbow and a little holder on your belt. Also why would you want velcro on your crossbow? And where would you put it?

thats pretty much it (for now anyways)

@~Jacquelyn
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Only problem is, no matter where he holds it, whether it be on his head, under his left armpit or on a fanny pack, if it gets hit, he gets hurt. Only exception to that is if the weapon you are HOLDING is allowed to be blocked with, which means everything else thats considered a weapon (aside from rocks, I think). Hmm, I used to love crossbows, but you know... Bows just seem better and better as I look at it. Someone pointed out to me at the event that while youve got a powerful ranged weapon from afar, then the baddies get close you pull out your shortsword and the bow becomes a slender tower shield!

~Sean
 
Izlude_Oranes said:
Only problem is, no matter where he holds it, whether it be on his head, under his left armpit or on a fanny pack, if it gets hit, he gets hurt. Only exception to that is if the weapon you are HOLDING is allowed to be blocked with, which means everything else thats considered a weapon (aside from rocks, I think). Hmm, I used to love crossbows, but you know... Bows just seem better and better as I look at it. Someone pointed out to me at the event that while youve got a powerful ranged weapon from afar, then the baddies get close you pull out your shortsword and the bow becomes a slender tower shield!

~Sean
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I don't believe it's legal to wield a bow and a sword at the same time... wouldn't this fall under the same rules as holding a quarterstaff and a sword?
 
Archon said:
I don't believe it's legal to wield a bow and a sword at the same time... wouldn't this fall under the same rules as holding a quarterstaff and a sword?
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No. A bow, I believe, can be no longer than a max length long sword. With the correct skills (two weapon fighting and florentine) you can weild another dagger or short sword in the other hand and you can't strike with the bow (it is blocking only).
 
Thorn said:
No. A bow, I believe, can be no longer than a max length long sword. With the correct skills (two weapon fighting and florentine) you can weild another dagger or short sword in the other hand and you can't strike with the bow (it is blocking only).
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Ah. I thought bows were allowed to be greatsword length. My bad.
 
theyre allowed to be so long, but I think you need to keep it longsword length if you want to two-weapon with it.
 
Bows can be up to 58" long. You can use the bow in one hand as a blocker and another weapon of the appropriate length if you have flourentine (up to dagger size) or two weapon skill (up to a short sword) and can attack or block with said other weapon. You cannot, however, fire the bow until you drop the other weapon from your non-bow hand in order to fire the arrow.

Jeff
 
My only big concern for a "wrist crossbow" would be that you make sure it is easily detachable in case of Disarm/Enflame/Shatter/Destroy, and that you are aware that it is not usable if you have a shield strapped to that arm, or holding some other physrep in that hand. Also, you need to make sure that you otherwise follow all the rules for packet archery.

Direct answers:
Could I fire this if nothing else was held in that hand?

Yes.

and if something was held in that hand, could I fire it, yet take damage if the thing I was holding was hit?

No. Packet archery requires that both hands be free and dedicated to using the archery skill. Also, please note that you may not block with a crossbow.
 
jpariury said:
...you may not blow with a crossbow.
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*phhhhhhhhhhhh*

*phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*

Yup. You're right on that one. Pretty ineffective -- couldn't even get the bolt to move.

-Bryan
 
Polare Lissenstine said:
*phhhhhhhhhhhh*

*phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh*

Yup. You're right on that one. Pretty ineffective -- couldn't even get the bolt to move.

-Bryan
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Since no one else has, allow me to please take this moment to tell you that you are a horrible man. 8P

-Matt, CALI-IN-THA-HOUSE!!!
 
What about sucking? is that still allowed?

-from the manthing with horrible aim


....yes...I was thinking that to
 
wait a second... Awww damn guys, why did you take it that way for? This is a rules thread... gah. Well, since the question has been long answered and discussed, I'll bet this thread will be closing soon anyway.
 
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